Dear Dr Hoffman,
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Elizabeth Hoffman wrote:
Dear Dr Roukema
Regarding your paper ref. ME1299. We have recently discovered that a paper on the same subject, by K. Gorski et al., has been submitted to and accepted by the Astrophysical Journal. A preprint of this paper was posted on astro-ph/0409513 on September 21, some time before your paper was received by Monthly Notices on November 12, but you did not cite this paper in your own. This prior submission must take precedence over
The reason we did not cite that paper is that Gorski et al's new paper (astro-ph/0409513) was consequent, not precedent, to our paper, and covered essentially the same material. We sent our paper to those authors on 8 September 2004 proposing co-authorship.
8 September 2004 is precedent to 21 September 2004.
yours, and I regret that we must therefore reject your paper for publication in Monthly Notices. If you consider that your paper contains significant new material beyond that presented in the paper by Gorski et al., then we may be able to consider a significantly revised version, but such a paper would be treated as a new submission.
On 8 September, we invited Gorski et al. to be coauthors of our paper. You can verify this either on the public archives of our mailing list: http://cosmo.torun.pl/pipermail/cosmo-torun/2004-September/000254.html or by asking any of the subscribers to the mailing list:
[Note: replace " at " by "@" - this is anti-spam-robot protection throughout this email.] * amr at astro.uni.torun.pl * bartosz.lew at astri.uni.torun.pl * boud at astro.uni.torun.pl * jarekr at ncac.torun.pl * magda at astro.uni.torun.pl * mhanasz at astri.uni.torun.pl * michalf at ncac.torun.pl * motylek at astro.uni.torun.pl * ssober at phys.uni.torun.pl * tavi at astro.uni.torun.pl * tkato at kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp * xlenka at poczta.fm or the HEALPix authors: * Krzysztof Gorski <Krzysztof.M.Gorski at jpl.nasa.gov>, * Eric Hivon <efh at ipac.caltech.edu>, * Frode Hansen <Frode.Hansen at roma2.infn.it>, *"Benjamin D. Wandelt" <bwandelt at uiuc.edu> to check their email archive from 8 September 2004.
While not many of the people listed here are necessarily "neutral", the nature of the date and content of the email sent on 8 September 2004 consitute an easily falsifiable claim (in the sense of Karl Popper).
Below you will find the email including full header information, but the most relevant part of the email is as follows:
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:24:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Boud Roukema <boud at astro.uni.torun.pl> Reply-To: Boud Roukema <boud at astro.uni.torun.pl>, Bartek Lew <blew at astro.uni.torun.pl>, cosmo-torun at astro.uni.torun.pl To: Krzysztof Gorski <Krzysztof.M.Gorski at jpl.nasa.gov>, Eric Hivon <efh at ipac.caltech.edu>, Frode Hansen <Frode.Hansen at roma2.infn.it>, "Benjamin D. Wandelt" <bwandelt at uiuc.edu>, Bartek Lew <blew at astro.uni.torun.pl>, Boud Roukema <boud at astro.uni.torun.pl>, cosmo-torun at astro.uni.torun.pl Subject: proposed co-authorship
Dear colleagues, Please find attached the draft of a paper of which we invite you to be co-authors. It is felt that the most consensual way to publish this paper would be to include the members of the HEALPix collaboration. We would be most happy to include your names as co-authors, if that is what you wish.
However, if we hear nothing from you by Wednesday 22 September, then we will assume that you do not wish to be co-authors.
Regards, Boud, Bartek
Gorski et al. made the choice of not being co-authors with us, but their submission of an article, with a preprint on astro-ph on September 21, clearly shows that they submitted their article in full knowledge of our work, and they submitted their version one day before our deadline in order to "officially" be able to claim publication precedence.
Frode Hansen <Frode.Hansen at roma2.infn.it> started a constructive discussion with us (which ended with his choosing not to be a co-author with us); he would probably be someone from "Gorski's group" willing to confirm the chronology here.
On 22 September, we submitted our own article to Astronomy & Astrophysics, but Astronomy & Astrophysics was unwilling to consider the chronology we have mentioned and was unwilling to send the article to a neutral referee for peer review, which is why we only submitted to MNRAS several weeks later, hoping for a more objective response to our article which was precedent to Gorski et al's article.
In our humble opinion, the most constructive solution would be to consider this to be simultaneous submission by two groups, with one group (us) openly and publicly offering cooperation to the other, which failed to respond and instead deliberately published a day before our proposed deadline. Maybe you could discuss this with Astrophysical Journal editors to find a constructive solution.
It would be appreciated if you could consider the fully chronology here.
Best regards, Boud Roukema, Bartosz Lew
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Dear colleagues, Please find attached the draft of a paper of which we invite you to be co-authors. It is felt that the most consensual way to publish this paper would be to include the members of the HEALPix collaboration. We would be most happy to include your names as co-authors, if that is what you wish.
However, if we hear nothing from you by Wednesday 22 September, then we will assume that you do not wish to be co-authors.
Regards, Boud, Bartek